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Buxtehude Founding Member

Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 8095 Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: Sante & Swamper, tell us about black flies in ME |
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It seems that the nasty little insects are thriving in Maine and the enviros are delighted. If you have never fished amidst a cloud of these bloody insects and suffered the welts and sometimes infected bites for a week afterward you are missing something that will make you long for mosquitoes.
They especially like running water, waterfalls, riffles, pocket water...right where you need to be for trout, and nothing will keep them away because they'll crawl inside your clothes where you don't use bug dope. Just changing flies will give them the opportunity to polish off your hands for lunch. They bite and chew flesh so the bites bleed and that draws more of them in for a meal.
http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2008/06/23/black_flies_surge_in_maines_clean_rivers/ _________________ "Kill reverence and you've killed the hero in man." (Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead)
"There is an inverse relationship between reliance on the state and self-reliance."
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haverodwilltravel Founding Member

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 4186 Location: New Hampshire "Live Free or Die!"
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Those Maniacs are a bunch of whiners. In New Hampshire, they are the size of eagles and pack a 55 gal. drum to store the blood.
Several things I've learned over the years.
1.) Cigar and Pipe smoke turns them off.
2.) After a number of years one becomes somewhat immune to the bite/(It's that or you just don't taste good).
3.) Avon's Skin so Soft mixed with Deet works best. The deet helps you die faster and the Avon product keeps you smelling sweet so the search dogs can find your body in the late fall.  _________________ "Properly trained, a man can be a dog's best friend."..........Corey Ford |
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Fred of York Founding Member

Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 722 Location: York, PA
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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There used to be a big problem with them along the Susquehanna, as stated in the article, and people living along the river could hardly go from their cars to the front doors without getting bitten. Trying to fish the river was a nightmare.
The spraying really does the job and it has not harmed other insects. The white fly hatch is as prolific as ever, caddis flies are everywhere, damsel and dragonflies abound. _________________ At my age I'd rather have a talking frog.
Harry Truman was correct when he observed, 'My choices early in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician.. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference.' |
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cb

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: KENT. England.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: |
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I visited my sister in New Zealand in 1994. The Sand flies that year loved me. (One thing about Sand flies = They have good taste!)
I bought insect repellant which was almost useless.
In the end I was advised to mix: 50% Johnsons baby oil with 50% jeye's fluid. What a cheap and effective mix it was.
The only snag with it is when you fish knee deep in the sea. when returning to the beach for new bait you must put more on your lower legs before putting the bait on your empty hook as the little beggars get you quick. Whether it also works with black flies is another thing but it is worth a try.
You smell a bit clinical on the return home when conifined to a car's interior but not much more pungent than the average fisherman gets after a day in the outdoors!  _________________ I think - therefore I am, at least I think I am, Oh it's so confusin!
You may think I am a complete idiot but parts of me are missing! |
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cb

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: KENT. England.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I think - therefore I am, at least I think I am, Oh it's so confusin! |
Apparently I am not me. as I thought I was above!
I tried to delete one of the (My) above double posts to be told:
"You can only delete your own posts.!"
Whoever I am now, will sit and contemplate this phenomenum before we post any more.
(Although, I bet someone else will delete one of the extra posts above so that this post looks detached and stupid left here!)
I would!  _________________ I think - therefore I am, at least I think I am, Oh it's so confusin!
You may think I am a complete idiot but parts of me are missing!
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cb

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: KENT. England.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Am I psychic or WOT?! Now I look stupid!
Honestly, there was a double post!
I am certain there was. At least I think there was. was there? Now I am confused!
TIME OUT!  _________________ I think - therefore I am, at least I think I am, Oh it's so confusin!
You may think I am a complete idiot but parts of me are missing! |
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Doug Gilmore Founding Member

Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 8742
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | "We do not favor anything that is toxic to one organism because we often find out down the road they are toxic to others," said David Littell, commissioner of the Maine Department of Environmental Protection. |
I'm surely glad he's not in charge of the Center for Disease Control. _________________ 'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it'
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Ed Kelleher Founding Member

Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 2607 Location: Pacific Grove CA
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| cb wrote: | I visited my sister in New Zealand in 1994. The Sand flies that year loved me. (One thing about Sand flies = They have good taste!)
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CB,
The sand flies were put there to make up for the fact that everything else is so perfect. I had really good luck keeping them off with Deet. Gotta be REAL careful with it because it dissolves fly lines and plastic frames on spectacles, but it did keep the flies off (mostly). There is 100% available, but it IS pretty toxic, and 35% is about all that is useful. I'll be bringing some with me when I go back!!
Of course, when you are mucking about with bait, you deserve sand flies.....  _________________ Tight Lines,
Ed K |
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cb

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: KENT. England.
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
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I was nearly right!
After a word with the wise one I will change my insect repellent
Mixture to: 50% Johnson's baby oil and 50% Dettol.
Try it! it works. Then try some bait! that sometimes works too!  _________________ I think - therefore I am, at least I think I am, Oh it's so confusin!
You may think I am a complete idiot but parts of me are missing! |
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J. Fogerty

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2088
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| haverodwilltravel wrote: | Those Maniacs are a bunch of whiners. In New Hampshire, they are the size of eagles and pack a 55 gal. drum to store the blood.
Several things I've learned over the years.
1.) Cigar and Pipe smoke turns them off.
2.) After a number of years one becomes somewhat immune to the bite/(It's that or you just don't taste good).
3.) Avon's Skin so Soft mixed with Deet works best. The deet helps you die faster and the Avon product keeps you smelling sweet so the search dogs can find your body in the late fall.  |
Cigarettes without filters is another turn off. It may take a bit longing than the cigar and pipe smoke to give them cancer but it isn't as offensive, to the people around you. _________________ Click on this link, as many times as it takes, to get the message through to you.
http://www.headandneck.org/psa.htm
I wish you great success and good health. Best of luck to you. BTW, I sincerely mean that.
I want you to win, at all cost. |
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Trico
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 148 Location: Bowie, Md
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I just got back from a week in the North Maine Woods area of Maine and I was the black fly buffet for the week. Ben's 100 seemed to act as an attractant. I assume the scar tissue will not be too noticeable. |
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MAGALLOWAY
Joined: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 405 Location: MAINE
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Blackflies were put there by the Good Lord for a reason; few people realize it, but rattlesnakes are deadly allergic to the little barstards!
Fact of life--either you got blackflies in your face or you got scorpions in your boots or brown recluses in the pumphouse. All in all, I'll take the flies.
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RWeber
Joined: 27 May 2008 Posts: 539 Location: Resident Curmudgeon
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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In truth and all seriousness it's the tourists who suffer in the adirondacks, by the time the flies are bad we've become almost immune to the bites, no swelling and no itching, now skeeters are soon to be nearing their peak and horse and deer flies are coming on after that.
I do not mind skeeters, black flies or rattlers but am allergic to no see ums.
deer flies and horse flies are repelled by nothing and take a pound of flesh per bite. Like those green headed marsh flies along the coast. I can do without them. _________________ ....and, finally, not because I regard fishing as being so terribly important but because I suspect that so many of the other concerns of men are equally unimportant - and not nearly so much fun.
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St. Lucie Tom Founding Member
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 2638 Location: Port St. Lucie FL
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Sand flees are just teeth with wings and I just let them eat if the bite is on.
Tom _________________ I am retired but I have an office on the Flats. CCA
Tom, your antagonistic responses have come to an end. |
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haverodwilltravel Founding Member

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 4186 Location: New Hampshire "Live Free or Die!"
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Tom, I swear sand fleas were used for torture in the middle ages. I use a thick coat of greasy sun block so they get stuck. _________________ "Properly trained, a man can be a dog's best friend."..........Corey Ford |
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